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SlixX
SlixX
Started 17 years ago
Last activity 17 years ago

Hi everybody and good morning ;)

It seems that after 2,5 years i've hit a wall in music production. things just don't go as smoothly as before, don't know why this is. Maybe because i've gotten to perfectionistisch or maybe something else. Also seems i can't learn new stuff in fruity and i'm sure that there is still lots more stuff to learn (also recently picked up reason 4). the main problem, i think, lies in soundmanipulation and composition Anybody got any tips or help? 

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particle
particle
#1

being too perfectionistic could be the problem, try working less on the details and try finishing stuff, when you finish a track you get thsi satisfaction and courage and you're on to the next track and also,  just do it! think less do more and experiment it's very cliché but very true i think that's how i've gotten through my wall hope it might help :)

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SlixX
SlixX
#2

Originally posted by : particle

being too perfectionistic could be the problem, try working less on the details and try finishing stuff, when you finish a track you get thsi satisfaction and courage and you're on to the next track and also,  just do it! think less do more and experiment it's very cliché but very true i think that's how i've gotten through my wall hope it might help :) 

it's true what you say you know,  but nothing ever works out anymore, i mean i don't know what i shold start with :D usually i make a loop first and build onward on that but it's very difficult lately, can't seem to turn the loop into a song and stuff. could also be that i'm lazy in the sense that i expect to get a lot whilst doing to little or something like that. does everybody start from a loop (or never) or do you sometimes start from an intro and stuff? also just uploaded a new loop, it's icz so you guys can comment, a dubstep tryout. still pending though.

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mrMute
mrMute
#3

some thoughts:

  • limiting your options is a good way to fire your creativity. Having too many options can make you  indicisive.
  • try just selecting a few samples or one vst.
  • deliberatly use samples you never would use otherwise.
  • Change the lenght of your measures in fruity to something else (not standard 16/16)
  • instead of making a loop start making sounds on your synths and play around with a midi keyboard, new sounds inspire.
  • use somebody else's work as a base & inspiration: look for an a capella on ccmixter, ask for unfinished ideas, flp files / midi files
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SlixX
SlixX
#4

thx for the tips mate will mind it ;) -got 25gig of mp3 en wav samples so your right abou tthe indicisive part :p -also started maken tracks in 12 measures in stead of the usual 16. -Midi keyboard is at my friends house :(

thx again ;)

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Skip
Skip
#5

believing in good results + willing to experiment -> is key. excellent words from MrMute. indeed try restricting your options or even your (genre of) sounds. (check some of the/my chiptune tracks here on Ebel)

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Apleton
Apleton
#6

try another sequencer, other synth, learn to play instruments, its just the daily routine that annoy you maybe

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bandarlog
bandarlog
#7

What does this wall have to do with FL?  It's you... :))  Try working at different projects in the same bpm.  That way you can exchange stuff.  Upgrade to fl 8.5.  That way you won't work with patterns anymore. 

AND come to the FL workshop in scheldapen @ 6/6;)

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SlixX
SlixX
#8

Originally posted by : bandarlog

What does this wall have to do with FL?  It's you... :))  Try working at different projects in the same bpm.  That way you can exchange stuff.  Upgrade to fl 8.5.  That way you won't work with patterns anymore. 

AND come to the FL workshop in scheldapen @ 6/6;) 

is that for free? and what province? oost vlaanderen? thx banderlog ;)

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bandarlog
bandarlog
#9

Originally posted by : SlixX

is that for free? and what province? oost vlaanderen? thx banderlog ;)   

In Antwerp (next to petrol) and not sure actually. Income is €5 but that's mostly for the party. Still a democratic price. I'll be talking about efx routing and massive vsti and general workflow in FL 8.5. About the same presentation as last year, bit more and in dutch. Feel free to come and have a look! I'm no pro but I'm sure my workflow can give you ideas for your own.

http://www.electrobel.be/forum/3/6332,sa_6_6_the_quest_for_the_brown_note_,0

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particle
particle
#10

i also like to do something completely different once in time, exploring styles etc sometimes this gives you new ideas or techniques wich you can use later

also the emptyness when you start can be a bit euh demotivating building upfrom nothing,, so that's why i like to recycle tracks, in that way i've got a lot of sounds and synths already and then i just tweak them to make something different, but i don't always do it, to keep it interesting and creative =) when i do build a track from nothing i mostly start with synthesis and melodic elements, if i begin with beats somehow the track never gets finished (unless it's abstract shizzle but well you know )

and lazyness is the devil! i'm very lazy and also in my music, mostly when i'm not lazy i really get better results so work your ass off! ;)

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