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some weird sort of home made synth
General discussionThe weirdest thing happened a few days ago.
A friend of mine (also active on ebel as jordandb) was home alone and turned his living room onto a smal studio. We where recording some tryouts for a live set. So his pc was inserted into my mengpaneel( jbsystems beat 6, (if that might be of importance to figuring out how this happened) on channel 2, then the beat6 was linked to the pc on the output channel master 2, Suddenly when I tweaked the high knob from channel 2 this high peeping sound appeared. Not like when you hold a microphone infront of the speakers but a clean sound. Then when i tweaked the bass knob and cut the high a deep evil and phat bassline apeared. So my mixboard became some sort of synth and some buttons gave another result on the sound as it would normaly do When you used the balance/pan you didn't swap between speakers but the sound just changed.
Now, what I'm asking is: has anyone ever heard or seen this before? And how can this be explained ?
P.S. I recorded some tweaking, If your interested contact me
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possible explanation: if you overdrive a mixer channel the result can be a square wave. tweaking the eq will produce different frequencies
i do this alot with my mixer to create distortion, feedback etc.
in my setup i use my aux sends and insert them back in a mixerchannel. by linking 3 channels like that after eachother you can create feedback and overdrive, by tweaking the levels and eq you can affect different frequencies. example: http://www.electrobel.be/muzik/12328/Schmerz drumloop on electribe r, tweaked live on my mixer. (@ 7 minutes you hear a very annoying beeping clean frequency)
possibly you reinvented a tipical dub mixing technique...
from your description i assume that there is some sort of feedbackloop going through your mixer... so the eq can be used to control th frequencies of this feedback signal.
if you add a delay somewhere in this loop you can get realy nice drony soundscapes.
its possible to do similar things with routing in ableton for example.
intresting read on dub techniques wich should be intresting even if your not making dub: http://www.interruptor.ch/dub_basics.shtml
yup, definatly feedback. next time insert a compressor and a reverb on it, to have really nice metallic sounds (for example: a never ending bell). if you do hard cuts in the sound you'll get new freq's and sounds, i managed to get a chopper out of my protools system like that :D after recording all that werid stuff, take out the most interesting sounds, put them in a sampler and play melo's with it for your new track ;)
hilarious, never thought this could happen... seems like a fat tool to experiment with...
Yup feedback^^
Robert Fripp used that trick with tape recorder, it's called Frippertronics^^
(back in the 80's)
n(^ù^)°
Yeah, recorded the most frequenties possible, working on a track with those sounds as we speak. But I do think that it depends on with which hardware you work. What I mean is that a diferent set up gets a slightly diferent sound. cause I listened to mrmute's track, and my sound sound different, even with effects on it
Originally posted by : Hoarax
Yeah, recorded the most frequenties possible, working on a track with those sounds as we speak. But I do think that it depends on with which hardware you work. What I mean is that a diferent set up gets a slightly diferent sound. cause I listened to mrmute's track, and my sound sound different, even with effects on it
It's not just feedback in that track. it's also overdrive: you crank up the volkume as high as possible, gain as high as possible and same for EQ. then i send that overdriven sound to a next mixer track and do the same thing etc... (maybe you can try to achieve this with your mixer using the record out, monitor/booth out, or you can try to overdrive a pick-up/phono channel. i do this with my aux sends. the pre fader ones. with these auxes you can now control the path the signal follows. -you can just overdrive it and play with the volumes adn eq to get different fuzzy distortions/overdrive.
- or you can set some of the signal back to a previous channel in the chain to get feedback, which usually results in high shreeks and beeps.
in the track i posted i also used a vocoder to do some filtering and i used the delay of my electribe to change the drumloop.
How do you do that with ableton?
Originally posted by : kornie
its possible to do similar things with routing in ableton for example.
with the operator synth, there are some buttons with coloured squares on it, if you click them your synth display will give different routing possibilities , but it's not a homemade synth though