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Need help on my low frequencies

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MrDeVille
MrDeVille
Started 20 years ago
Last activity 20 years ago

Hi guys

I have an issue in my little studio, maybe you guys know the answer. When I record bass tunes ( bassdrum, bassguitar, etc ) the recorded sound will always sound flat, if you know what i mean. the dynamics are gone. does someone have an idea about this?

greetings

Mr deville

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MrDeVille
MrDeVille
#1

My soundcart is an M audio audiophile 24 bit 48khz USB. The mixings deck is low noise, brand: soundtracs. and my monitors are berhringer, but that should not be a problem. I guess.

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Scootchy
Scootchy
#2

if you speak french, I advise you this site about sound engineers, sound designers...

http://www.sounddesigners.org/

sure someone has your answeer there!

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kaoz
kaoz
#3

have u tried compressing?

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MrDeVille
MrDeVille
#4

french is a bit out of my league. a shame

Compressing yes, I've tried. before and after recording. the bass guitar is even limited and fixed by a balanced output ( amp )

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cestqui
cestqui
#5

hazard with own recording is,that you think it has no dynamic,so people turn up the incoming recording level>tuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut,wrong answer :D

try to record,what is playin,no tricks involved;u have to start with not something perfect,but less good,as long it does not clip,you are ok;

mixersettings are really important,windows and audiocard mixer!!!no harware mixer;

and believe me,the recording of a bass is less hard then recording a voice with a mic;

cause you have the sound playing,going along with the desired recorded sound;but all recorded

so ,best results with recording;is without a mic;bazeguitar direct into soundcard;

then i assume,you put some plugin on the mastertrack,wich spoils your fun;thats your prob i think;

the rest is compressed,and it sticks behind in dynamic;

1 treuly good trick,or defenition is;

if ya use 1 compressor on a track,you need to compress all other tracks(the once that need dynamic) too;

conclusion,its not the basist his faulth,lol

its all internal,sofware-matic,where it goes wrong;and the number 0 has never been more important then now,its studioreference for clip=overload>0 db

on my soundcard ,thats 50 perc(audigi2),so lot of people assume it cant hurt to put more level,wich is bad;

so my biggest advice is,search for best mixersettings,experiment with them,choose best recordings out of it;

import the fukn samp,deactivate(not deleting) all masteringdevices,compressors,isotopes;

and judge then,cause now you have yourself a false impression of it;

i'll hope you find your settings,greetz

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ELFENKOMMANDO
ELFENKOMMANDO
#6

Originally posted by : kaoz have u tried compressing?

yeah man, all you need is a couple of mindprints and your sound will boost up like never before ... although a simple behringer can also help out a lot (ow jah, an' when you buy one of these, don't throw away the manual as if it was one of a synth ... ... you should read the thing man) ;)

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joez
joez
#7

Record your bass-source with 2 or 3 mics. I mostly use a bassdrummic (close to your amp or basdrumbeater) and a condenser (half a meter distance). With a bassguitar I also use a D/I.

By eq'ing the sound after you recorded it, you can make the flatness disappear. Boost the low freq, but also the higher ones (leaf the mids untouched). the higher ones give you attack and presence. Pan the different mics (basdrummic left, condenser right, DI middle) And dance afterwards on your booming basssound ...

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AnaesThesiA
AnaesThesiA
#8

First of all, before anything else, make sur the mic you use can capture low frequencies well ( don't record a bass with an SM57, sur it'll sound flat that way ), and second, be sure the room you're recording in is accoustical appropriate. People always underestimate the importance of the room accoustics...

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MrDeVille
MrDeVille
#9

thanks for the reply's guys. I think Cestqui is right when he say its a matter of experimenting.

The thing is: the dynamics of the recorded bass sound are good, or I presume it is. I always stay under 0 db so no clipping is involved here. I just got my fresh soundcart arrived, this time it's a PCI version of the usb breakout box so now I have a mixingprogam with it so maybe it was an internal clipping of the soundcart. I also always did suspect it of being to unstable after I had some bad experiences with it. I still have some experimenting to do.

the tips on recording with mics are worth a try. However; I don't think thats the issue here because I also record a kind of fixed bassdrum sound from my drummodules. When I here it before recording I always think it rocks. but when I hear it after, I always feel to sell the drummodule. My songs are in the bass section kind of o.k. after the mixing process but I also feel like it should have been better. It seems like a quality loss.

all right, at the moment I have some tips to experiment with. see ya,

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