need help for live setup!

i use live4 and i think i know what causes the out of sinc prob: are you shure you fitted your sample right in live? i mean: when you put a sample in live that is a bit too long, live will think this is the right length and will warp it to the general tempo (upper-left corner). so you need to fill in the right tempo in the properties of your sample (u know: when u clic on a sample, you see the volume, envelopes, tempo..). then i think everything would be right in sync (of course, you have to switch on warp and loop). 4 the live-setup: i would use ableton as a master and all your other equipment and software (via ReWire) as slave. the only prob is: when u want to load a new live-file, the patterns and samples in live will stop playing, but you can cover that by playing some tunes on your dx7, or by playing some loops in FLstudio. of course you use youruc33 as midi-controller in live, 'cause this program has a LOT of power when u have a decent controller (like your uc33). the djx that u use as midi-controller can do the job in flstudio and nuendo (just a question: those softsynths, are they plug-ins? 'cause if so, you can use them IN ableton live!). and finally, u plug in your outputs of the dx and the computer in the ub 502. just don't forget you rmidi-cables ;) midi-out of the computer in your dx7, and the midi-out of your djx in the midi-in of the computer; uc33 goes via usb e?

i think the issue is that he has a delay effect in fruity, so when he exports the loop, the delay is clipped ...

*Solution1: export a dry loop into ableton (dry means no effect). Then add delay in ableton *Solution2: You probably exported the FIRST loop that has delay .. meaning the very first notes are still dry, then later you have the delay kicking in ... what you should do is export the 2nd or 3rd loop ... so you'll already have the delay on the beginning .. then the loop should loop as normal .... do you see what i mean ? Normally that should work, even if you use unsynced delay ...

I have a solution for your Fruity problem. when you export a loop with a delay effect or reverb or whatever use the option "wrap remainder". that way you will have a perfect loop. no matter what effect you use. it will calculate the delay and paste it at the beginning of your wav file. resulting in a perfect loop.

Originally posted by : isnieZot

I have a solution for your Fruity problem. when you export a loop with a delay effect or reverb or whatever use the option "wrap remainder". that way you will have a perfect loop. no matter what effect you use. it will calculate the delay and paste it at the beginning of your wav file. resulting in a perfect loop.

nice, that's my solution #2 actually ... but easier :P

thx a lot guys, i posted the same question at the fl forum still no answer.... i already tried to wrap the reminder and it works, gonna excercise , and post the final result on electroblel! :P

ok now i just managed to get my loops properly into ableton, but i have another question: some of my songs are louder then others, so when i start mixing song one with song 2 there is a big difference in volume. i know i can set the individual volume of every loop, but ain't there a way to play the whole set at the same volume , without having to adjust the volume of 400 loops?

Originally posted by : relaxotan

ok now i just managed to get my loops properly into ableton, but i have another question: some of my songs are louder then others, so when i start mixing song one with song 2 there is a big difference in volume. i know i can set the individual volume of every loop, but ain't there a way to play the whole set at the same volume , without having to adjust the volume of 400 loops?

maybe by putting a compressor on the master channel ... though you should normalize your loops, that should help already a bit ...

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I think a compressor is his best option like you say. normalizing is also an option but he should calculate the RMS value instead of just doing a "simple" normalize because a "simple" normalize works on the peaks of your sound. and your ear is sensitive for the avarage value (rms). you can do that cooledit I believe. normalizing does ruin your soundquality a bit though.

Isn't it a bit dangerous to compress everything till it has the same volume? i mean: won't some songs sound overcompressed while others sound normal? I would go for the normalisation in the first place (no, I would go for the equal mix of songs first but I know that isn't easy) and then maybe add some compression.

Originally posted by : bandarlog

Isn't it a bit dangerous to compress everything till it has the same volume? i mean: won't some songs sound overcompressed while others sound normal? I would go for the normalisation in the first place (no, I would go for the equal mix of songs first but I know that isn't easy) and then maybe add some compression.

just talking about a quick-fix solution ;) problem with normalisation is that it just takes peaks. unless you have a special application that normalizes on rms like isniezot suggested ... thats the best solution. (cleaner than with a compressor)