Debutant with dumb question

I think you got the wrong impression :)

SOME songs use existing sounds (we call the samples). But in most cases there's just one or two, usually it's beats, but they are usually sliced up and used in a different order ...

may be what you need is a program like Sony Acid or, more affordable is something like e-jay!!

It works with a huge bank of loops (beats, synth riffs, fxs, vocals, ...)

There are tons of loops like that on the net!!

It can be the solution for a start, after you'll be used to audio softwares & loop editing, you can go further by adding some midi tracks of yer own!!

But, yes, for a start, I think loop based softwares are what you need!

what kind of electronic films do you make?

;)

GriG

Originally posted by : grig

may be what you need is a program like Sony Acid or, more affordable is something like e-jay!!

It works with a huge bank of loops (beats, synth riffs, fxs, vocals, ...)

There are tons of loops like that on the net!!

It can be the solution for a start, after you'll be used to audio softwares & loop editing, you can go further by adding some midi tracks of yer own!!

But, yes, for a start, I think loop based softwares are what you need!

what kind of electronic films do you make?

;)

GriG

Hi Grig, Thanks for that advice. Sounds like a lot of fun to begin with.

I make environment, population, energy, land-use planning, energy, loss of democracy, loss of biodiversity, peak oil and climate change films using camcorder and focusing on signs and symptoms of these that communities have picked up on (without necessarily realising what these are symptoms of). I then film the issues focusing on the community's interaction and activism around the issues, usually looking at who is profiting financially. I couch the whole thing within a sociological theory in order not to get sued and in order to explain what may be happening in an accessible way. I use a lot of footage as language/symbols, meaning that I evoke a situation by stringing disparate stuff together to create connections in peoples' minds. Music is really good to convey atmosphere, mood, and meaning. I also use interviewing. Most of the time, unless I am using interviewing, I don't have a lot of footage of people; more of cities, and trees and plains and rain and sounds like rain and traffic and stuff. If I do a film of an interview, although there will be footage of the person or people, there will also be lots of other footage to illustrate what they are saying, not just talking head.

I sort of tell stories with these films. I dramatise statistics. I have a lot of fun and I have just started out. I work with a partner who is a better photographer than me, but I am the real storyteller. Since I am also an artist/cartoonist/painter I can kind of paint with footage; cut and paste from all kinds of places.

Some of it is mostly art. One recurring image we use, since Australia is in constant damaging development with new suburbs being created on a daily basis, serviced only by cars, is the image of endless streets and new houses with all the trees gone and huge four wheel drives. Waltzes with speeded up footage of a car driving round and round endless suburbs is good viewing.

Sheila N

Originally posted by : Sheila

Hi Grig, Thanks for that advice. Sounds like a lot of fun to begin with.

I make environment, population, energy, land-use planning, energy, loss of democracy, loss of biodiversity, peak oil and climate change films using camcorder and focusing on signs and symptoms of these that communities have picked up on (without necessarily realising what these are symptoms of). I then film the issues focusing on the community's interaction and activism around the issues, usually looking at who is profiting financially. I couch the whole thing within a sociological theory in order not to get sued and in order to explain what may be happening in an accessible way. I use a lot of footage as language/symbols, meaning that I evoke a situation by stringing disparate stuff together to create connections in peoples' minds. Music is really good to convey atmosphere, mood, and meaning. I also use interviewing. Most of the time, unless I am using interviewing, I don't have a lot of footage of people; more of cities, and trees and plains and rain and sounds like rain and traffic and stuff. If I do a film of an interview, although there will be footage of the person or people, there will also be lots of other footage to illustrate what they are saying, not just talking head.

I sort of tell stories with these films. I dramatise statistics. I have a lot of fun and I have just started out. I work with a partner who is a better photographer than me, but I am the real storyteller. Since I am also an artist/cartoonist/painter I can kind of paint with footage; cut and paste from all kinds of places.

Some of it is mostly art. One recurring image we use, since Australia is in constant damaging development with new suburbs being created on a daily basis, serviced only by cars, is the image of endless streets and new houses with all the trees gone and huge four wheel drives. Waltzes with speeded up footage of a car driving round and round endless suburbs is good viewing.

Sheila N

excellent idea!

Hi Sheila,

wow, this is really interesting! Is that a job you're payed for, or some personal artistic work?

And tell me, what are you doing with thoses films, are they broadcasted, diffused, published?

Is there anything we cansee, on webpage or anything?

Bravo, sheila, as far as I'm concezrned, no prob for me if you use any of my musics, but as it's been said, would be so cool if we could see what've been done with it!! ;)

GriG

Don't know if you ever seen these films; I think you have to:

Koyaanisqatsi Powaqqatsi Naqoyqatsi

It's a trilogy directed by Godfrey Reggio, and the music if from Philip Glass! It took about 25 years to finish it, they travelled all around the world for it! It's a bit like what you're doing! To explain a little the titles: Koyaanisqatsi means Life Out of Balance in Hopi!! ;) Take a look @ these, Sheila, you'll see how inspiring it is!

Originally posted by : grig

Don't know if you ever seen these films; I think you have to:

Koyaanisqatsi Powaqqatsi Naqoyqatsi

powaqqatsi?????

i always thought baraka was the one never heard of powaqqatsi

any info???

@ rantferox:

Well this is a trilogy:

KOYAANISQATSI (1983) is the first part of the QATSI Trilogy. POWAQQATSI, the second film, was completed in 1988. NAQOYQATSI has been released in 2003!

http://www.koyaanisqatsi.org/

Baraka is a film made by the Director of Photography of these films , Ron Fricke in 1991!

http://www.spiritofbaraka.com/fricke.aspx

;)

GriG

Originally posted by : grig

@ rantferox:

Well this is a trilogy:

KOYAANISQATSI (1983) is the first part of the QATSI Trilogy. POWAQQATSI, the second film, was completed in 1988. NAQOYQATSI has been released in 2003!

http://www.koyaanisqatsi.org/

Baraka is a film made by the Director of Photography of these films , Ron Fricke in 1991!

http://www.spiritofbaraka.com/fricke.aspx

;)

GriG

excellent thanx!

No problem, it's all day's work for SuPeR GriG MaN!!

;)

GriG