Café central : Maybe the last one ..?

Urgh.... That sucks...

man this must feel as a very cold shower! en tant que porte-parole t'as tout le merde...

j'ai vu les gens dehors en sortant.....je ne savais pas qu'il fallait les faire entrer. sachez qu'il y avait pas mal de gens qui n'ont rien à voir avec ebel...

keep up man, doing a good job here.

on the otherhand the cafe central hires a bouncer ....

no offence but this kind of behavior is supposed to be controlled by the bouncer....

i don't see what it has to do with ebel, since we basically just provide a lineup to cafe central. They still handle logistic etc....

Basically (my feeling) it's like they'd be telling us that too many glasses were broken last time and that if it happens again they'd stop ebel events.

I understand the owner's point of view, but maybe he should ask his bouncer to do his work :)

yes ok, but as he said to me, they have only 1 bouncer for the whole night... have you seen the number of people there was outside 8o for only one person .. It is our job too to keep the people calm if we want to keep this bar ..

"i don't see what it has to do with ebel, since we basically just provide a lineup to cafe central."

And they provide us somewhere to make people play ..

Jesus, I didn't know electrobel attracted that kind of crowd 8o I saw them nogoods too outside and was indeed wondering what the hell they were doing there. Clearly they didn't come for the music since it was inside (duh). Maybe because of the fact that "something" electronic was happening there?

Anyway, it's not the job of people who play the music to keep the no goods outside. And if we do attract that kind of public and the owner doesn't like it... there's not much yu can do I think.

Really strange...

:fight: Did the trouble-makers outside the café have something to do with the party ?

ok, never been at central, due to timing problems .../

but i think zark is right about the bouncer... believe me, a good bouncer can handle this without violence... i have been at parties were 20 people were causing trouble, and 1 bouncer solved it without throwing a punch...

keep in mind that if u go telling people to enter the bar and stuff, more problems might occur, if they are so drunk they might focus on you ... and if u or anyone from ebel would get involved in a fight, i think the problem is much worse...

on the other hand what ebellers can do is keep an eye out and signal potential problems to the bouncer, so he can do sumetin in time...

just see to it that no ebel members begin puking against the windows or hassling people, more is really not your responsability...(if a fight breaks loose, and you hit someone, it might get to an ugly insurance problem, and since u are not responsable for that place...)

so if u see assholes making trouble, ask them to ' behave ' , if it continues, contact the bouncer...

thats just my oppinion...

I think yo'ure right distreality but the main problems is the people in front of the bar ... they should be inside not outside ... OK if it's just for having a "breath" but not ok when they begin to scream, fight, shooting on the cars, etc

i can understand the owner point of vieuw...

And i know exactly who are the people in front of the bar: always the same, im sorry if i offend someone, but its ALL in the underground breakcore public, you know, rastas with dogs and speedpowder and carapils...always the same faces... And personaly i dont like them, i mean not the poeple, i respect everybody, but i dont like the energy they got, the kinda dikkenek attitude cause thy are 'underground' ( but when they come back at home , daddy rides a brand new BMW...) . Its OFF COURSE not all people of this group, but do you understand me? I really enjoy rastas and dogs lol, but i hate people thinkin they are beter then others or thinkin someone is dumb because he got money or a good lookin face, we are all humans, richie ritch or not. Nobody is better then another.

About the central things, lets talk about it: the owner got the bar FULL every ebel event... we are playin for FREE... And he want us to be the police for the people outside??? C'mon, is it a joke? KWen and Scape, we all know you did a lot for this collaboration ebel-central, but dont you think its time to take the place we disurve?? I mean, a REAL soundsystem ina REAL bar where people can dance and enjoy 100% our music? In my head Café central as always been a place where its good to play and to drink a beer, but its very expensive, a lill bit 'bourgeois', nice place to be the supa DJ :) see what i mean?? OK j exagere, but its a bit the cool people place dont u think?

There are many places we could play every month ( and get PAID, do you remember we are spending 300hours at home for 1hour live?)... I m ready to take sum time to find another one if things are goin bad with central. We should not be take as the lill organisation willin to play at any price. Askin us to manage the ouside public is NOT OUR buizness, we are producers and organisators for some of us. This job is for HIM.

Can we have a meet to talk about it? I talked to Samforce afew days ago, and to others, seems we are ready to take a new fly since we are enough to organise.

To end this fukn long post, i wan tto say its hard to explain my feelins about the central, but be shure i will be always thankfull for this bar where we had so many good moments, and to the Central boss,and thankfull to you KWeN and SCape and Gozno to have organized our first ebel partys. No i smell the wind is turning, and we could prepare ourself to another destination dont u think???

€0,5 entrance and your problem is solved... only interested people then (even the broken glasses will get refunded then) :D

in reply to aphone... to be honest... i thought it was an expensive place as well, maybe i lost track of prices.... no lights, no place to dance (although i'm not a dancer, on your set i wouldv'e shaken my "booty" if there would've been some others) but hey, as a one-timer i don't want to interfere in the discussion... i'll just read from now on...